@ausfem said:

Some sort of super hero tv series set in Turkey, with turkish actors but lip synced with American accents. What I can gather it's about immortals. I've only just watched the first couple of episodes, so maybe I'll get it as it goes along. Airing on Netflix.

Yeah I am watching the first episode right now. I am just 20 minutes into it, just watched the scene where the lead character Hakan blamed the shop owner he works for for not funding his antique store venture. That scene made me sick. His dread-lock headed loser best friend had just informed him that they were evicted from their apartment because the loser had gambled away their rent money and all their savings. Hakan sided with his loser friend and got angry with the shop owner (apparently some relative who raised him like a son, though not his real father) for not funding his latest business venture.

Hakan and the loser have a history of failing in business, everything they touch turns to shit. Hakan seems like an ambitious hard working sort of fellow, but he hangs on to his loser friend. He should have knocked his teeth out for gambling away all the savings they built up to start their business. He should have disowned the loser dread head. Instead he blamed the only responsible person in the room and walked out in a huff. How can he do that? Are we supposed to look up to this Hakan character after this?

Who do the writers think they are appealing to? Do young people go for this stuff? How can they make this turd the hero of the show? His irresponsible attitude is disgusting. Instead of admitting his own fault for trusting his loser friend, someone with a history of pissing away money irresponsibly with his gamgling habit, he turned on the shop owner and blamed him for not bankrolling his latest 'great business idea'.

"You know if you had helped us out this wouldn't have happened" said Hakan.

REALLY? Dread-head loser with the gambling habit wouldn't have lost that money too? Think of what they are teaching young people who look up to Hakan as some kind of hero. This teaches them to blame others for their own failings and misfortune, and to demand money from those who work hard, act responsibly, and save money for the future. It honestly filled me with disgust to watch that scene with Hakan seemingly feeling justifed and righteously indignant that the old man had not funded his latest brilliant idea. Yeah, Hakan can't be bothered with learning something from his elders. He thinks he is smarter then them and is sure he would succeed if people would just give him money.

"You know we can take care of ourselves" insists Hakan. Yeah? Is that why you're pitching a fit because nobody will give you money? "You know, thank you for being absolutely no help. I really fucking appreciate it" he says with contemptuous sarcasm.

There is such a thing as teenage angst, but this is more than that. It speaks volumes about the decline of our culture that they wrote the hero, the character young people are meant to identify with, as so lacking in character and respect. Hakan treated his step father with contempt, showed him disrespect, and displayed no compunction or remorse after doing so. He intentionally neglected to address his past failures when step dad brought them up. He seemed to get angry that they were mentioned. He just insisted that step dad give him money. Hakan is also nearly hysterical at times, refuses to listen or follow instructions. He is almost completely undisciplined and had no control over his emotions. I can't stand to watch such petulance in someone who is given the hero role. It is disgusting to watch, and irresponsible to broadcast.

I'm going to watch a bit more and see if the plot is interesting, but if there is too much more of this "the world owes me money" crap I will have to call it quits.

@write2topcat said:

Who do the writers think they are appealing to? Do young people go for this stuff? How can they make this turd the hero of the show? His irresponsible attitude is disgusting. Instead of admitting his own fault for trusting his loser friend, someone with a history of pissing away money irresponsibly with his gamgling habit, he turned on the shop owner and blamed him for not bankrolling his latest 'great business idea'.

Wow you got all that. Actually I totally forgot to watch anymore episodes. That's how interesting it was to me

Speaking of kids. It's the way they are taught these days. Spoilt brats with no sense of responsibility. What happened to parents that they don't/ won't instill ethics into their children. I can't see it getting any better either.

@ausfem said:

@write2topcat said:

Who do the writers think they are appealing to? Do young people go for this stuff? How can they make this turd the hero of the show? His irresponsible attitude is disgusting. Instead of admitting his own fault for trusting his loser friend, someone with a history of pissing away money irresponsibly with his gamgling habit, he turned on the shop owner and blamed him for not bankrolling his latest 'great business idea'.

Wow you got all that. Actually I totally forgot to watch anymore episodes. That's how interesting it was to me

Speaking of kids. It's the way they are taught these days. Spoilt brats with no sense of responsibility. What happened to parents that they don't/ won't instill ethics into their children. I can't see it getting any better either.

You're right about them being spoiled. I think the leftist assault on traditional mores, values, etc. is to blame for this. They even assault the traditional gender roles. I read a book called Brave New Schools which examines the leftist goals and curriculum and the methods by which the children are desensitized to their parents' traditional values and beliefs. It is an insidious system which uses behavioral conditioning and peer pressure to convert the kids. And you see this in our current movies and television (and have for some time now.)

If you noticed Hakan, he was often hysterical, weeping, sobbing, etc. He was governed totally by his weakly controlled emotions, and became hysterical at points. It is normal to grieve the loss of your father, and even to cry over his passing. But Hakan was a mess. And he acted in a similar manner at other times: when Memo was missing, when he was told about the shirt, just about anything would set him off.

And the girl who began to train him after his step father died, was calm, rational, and she had to calm Hakan down, to ground him. Several times Hakan began falling apart, upset over his missing friend, or one thing or another. "I've got to go" he would say as he came close to melting down. And the girl would calm him, hand on shoulder or holding him, saying "it's OK, it's OK". Hakan is definitely not playing the strong male role. That role was played by the girl, Zeynep is her name I think.

Respect for elders? Not. Responsible for his own mistakes and failures? Definitely not. Cool headed under pressure. HA, not even close. A leader. Nope.

And this is the hero? I'm surprised he wasn't wearing a magic bra and panty set along with the shirt.

Zeynep displays the characteristics of the traditional leading male hero type.

I have struggled through five episodes of this and virtually nothing has happened. Hakan is breathtakingly selfish sex driven and irresponsible and totally unsuited to the task. It's all talk talk talk and no action. Even if Emir followed them from the house how did he know where the secret room was? Why does Hassan have to take the shirt off? Why would you keep such a valuable garment in a cellar? Why shouldn't the blind guy know the box was yellow - he could have seen it before he got blinded or someone could have told him. Who was he anyway? Why the whole trip to his house, it didn't yield anything. I really can't be bothered to find out what happens in the end.

@ausfem said:

Some sort of super hero tv series set in Turkey, with turkish actors but lip synced with American accents. What I can gather it's about immortals. I've only just watched the first couple of episodes, so maybe I'll get it as it goes along. Airing on Netflix.

Just finished the series.

I hate to be one of those people who complains about a series they watched of their own free will--but, Hakan is so awful that if I had a dagger and some quality time with him, my only defense to the jury would be: "watch the series". No jury in the world would convict me!

Best things about the series are the villains: the “Mad Dog Mechanic” doing his master’s bidding; and the master himself—a manipulator extraordinaire.

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@ausfem said:

Some sort of super hero tv series set in Turkey, with turkish actors but lip synced with American accents. What I can gather it's about immortals. I've only just watched the first couple of episodes, so maybe I'll get it as it goes along. Airing on Netflix.

Just finished the series.

I hate to be one of those people who complains about a series they watched of their own free will--but, Hakan is so awful that if I had a dagger and some quality time with him, my only defense to the jury would be: "watch the series". No jury in the world would convict me!

Best things about the series are the villains: the “Mad Dog Mechanic” doing his master’s bidding; and the master himself—a manipulator extraordinaire.

Now I know I was right to give up on the series. lol

@write2topcat said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@ausfem said:

Some sort of super hero tv series set in Turkey, with turkish actors but lip synced with American accents. What I can gather it's about immortals. I've only just watched the first couple of episodes, so maybe I'll get it as it goes along. Airing on Netflix.

Just finished the series.

I hate to be one of those people who complains about a series they watched of their own free will--but, Hakan is so awful that if I had a dagger and some quality time with him, my only defense to the jury would be: "watch the series". No jury in the world would convict me!

Best things about the series are the villains: the “Mad Dog Mechanic” doing his master’s bidding; and the master himself—a manipulator extraordinaire.

Now I know I was right to give up on the series. lol

Me too..

Как да си пусна филм да гледам

@лошата said:

Как да си пусна филм да гледам

Netflix.