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From Wikipedia's Mary Berry article:

In September 2016, Love Productions announced that a three-year deal to broadcast the show on Channel 4 instead of the BBC from 2017 had been agreed. Co-hosts Mel Giedroyc and Sue Perkins announced that they would not be continuing with Bake Off on its new network. [Mary] Berry announced she was also leaving Bake Off on the same day that fellow judge Paul Hollywood announced he would be staying with the show.

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I haven't watched the show since it moved to Channel 4. Fortunately Mary Berry is still on the BBC presenting her own programmes like "Mary Berry's Country House Secrets". She was also in the Christmas Special "Mary, Mel and Sue's Big Christmas Thank You" with the other two presenters, Mel Giedroyc and Sue Perkins, who had left the show.

Hopefully PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) in the US will air certain ones of Mary's shows; I really like her. PBS only has airing deals with just one or two UK network (principally with ITV, I think), thus normally whatever appears elsewhere on UK t.v. never is shown on American t.v. Exception is anything that an individual PBS station chooses to privately purchase airing rights to. I doubt that TGBBO will air nationally anymore on PBS, now that it's been relicensed.

During the December holiday period, Mary's last two TGBBO Christmas specials with Paul Hollywood did air on PBS, as they were from before the series changed networks. I thoroughly enjoyed each of those two specials, and had no idea, at the time, it would be the last of Mary and Paul working together on the show.

It was all over the news in 2016 when it was announced that the broadcasting rights for TGBBO were bought by Channel 4.

I haven't watched the new format with commercial breaks, as I enjoyed the show as it was with its serene atmosphere and occasional quips, and no sudden interruptions with adverts of fast food chains, feminine products and so on.

You might try the internet (well known websites) for some tidbits of her shows.

Until during the last year I close to never watched any TGBBO episodes (though had caught some, now or then, during the prior 2-3 years); that was when I realized how interested I was. By the time I started semi-following the series (at whatever point it was to by then), I now realize that was the final season, that had aired in the UK during 2016, of before the networks switch. (America's PBS - which is commercial-free - typically airs UK series/documentaries several months - sometimes a year or more - after whenever it was that they aired in the UK.) It was only the other week that, in the process of wanting to learn more about Mary Berry, I discovered what had ensued during 2016, and that Mary (etc.) ceased being on the show after that year.

There's a similarly enjoyable (follows the exact same formula) US version of the series, The Great American Baking Show: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/69024-the-great-american-baking-show. That, actually, is what "hooked" me, its 2nd series/season that aired Dec. 2016 through Jan. 2017, and got me started on subsequently semi-following, on PBS, episodes of the British version. Unfortunately, due to credible sexual allegations against one of the American series' judges, Johnny Iuzzini, that broke just after the first episode of Series 3 aired a month ago, ABC (the American commercial network it was airing on [only the British version airs on PBS]) promptly yanked the series from the schedule and announced that the remainder of that Series 3 would never be aired. That was very disappointing to hear.

Presumably this coming December the American version will be back, with a Series/Season 4 and a new co-judge. Incidentally, for Series 2, that concluded during Jan. 2017 (I didn't watch any of the prior, first, year's season), the judges were Mary Berry and Johnny Iuzzini. I guess that since the American version is part of the same franchise as the British version originated, that's why Mary wasn't on the US' 3rd series, however is why, instead, Paul Hollywood was.

There are versions of TGBBO from countries all over the world. I've watched clips from Italy, Turkey, South Africa, Bulgaria, Norway, Romania, Poland and the Netherlands. It's quite interesting that each country has its own take on the presentation. Of course, the original British version with Mary Berry is still the best.

What's surprising is that I noticed, during the one (very first) episode of the 3rd American series that aired a month ago, it clearly appeared to have been produced in the UK, and at the same set (outdoors somewhere, in the same large open tent) that the UK version uses - which I guess explains, also, why during the first US season I watched Mary was one of the judges, then the ill-fated season that began (then abruptly concluded) a month ago Paul Hollywood was; the British judges apparently were working on their own usual home turf. If it wasn't the UK set that the American version was using, it sure did look identical to it, right down, also, to the very distinctly British surrounding landscape. Rather unusual seeming for an American series to do that, when the US version could simply be done somewhere in the States.

According to Wikipedia the first season of The Great American Baking Show was filmed in the same place as all the series of The Great British Bake Off: Welford Park in Berkshire, England, UK. And the third season in Iver Heath in Buckinghamshire, England, UK.
This is surprising, as other versions are filmed in their own countries. So, why is the US version filmed in the UK?

And it's not like there aren't available reasonably comparable beautiful and idyllic places in the US where filming could be done. That having been said, the UK locations do visually and charm-wise add something distinctive and special to the mix.

I'm thinking that probably, because the British series was an established hit in the UK by the time the American version came about, and the fact that the British version at times airs on PBS stations throughout the US, plus because one of the UK judges has been included in each US season, it was decided to stick with the look and feel, and even part of the casting, of what's already familiar and established.

I will miss Mary when the PBS show in the U.S. gets to the point of her departure. I think she had good chemistry with Paul Hollywood, and I liked their discussions during the competitions as well as their Masterclass episodes.

One of my secondary PBS stations has repeatedly been airing (at 10a.m. on Sunday mornings) I think it's UK season 4 (whichever season it is that John Whaite won), and its special Master Class episodes, since that season's original round of prime time US broadcasts, on main PBS stations, a year or so ago. I keep wondering why PBS doesn't rerun some of the past other seasons of before the big UK switcharoo.

I never tire of seeing Mary and Paul, plus their enjoyable good-natured banter. Mary reminds me a lot of my late mom, who died (age 96) in 2012. Watching her on this series always serves as "comfort food" viewing for me.

@genplant29 said:

One of my secondary PBS stations has repeatedly been airing (at 10a.m. on Sunday mornings) I think it's UK season 4 (whichever season it is that John Whaite won), and its special Master Class episodes, since that season's original round of prime time US broadcasts, on main PBS stations, a year or so ago. I keep wondering why PBS doesn't rerun some of the past other seasons of before the big UK switcharoo.


That was series 3 (14 August - 16 October 2012). Good old times. cake relaxed

@genplant29 said:

One of my secondary PBS stations has repeatedly been airing (at 10a.m. on Sunday mornings) I think it's UK season 4 (whichever season it is that John Whaite won), and its special Master Class episodes, since that season's original round of prime time US broadcasts, on main PBS stations, a year or so ago. I keep wondering why PBS doesn't rerun some of the past other seasons of before the big UK switcharoo.

It seems that episodes/seasons on PBS may depend to some extent on the individual TV market one is in. When I lived in Boston it seemed that we always got stuff really fast, perhaps because Boston's PBS station, WGBH, is one of the major producers/originators of PBS content. I think my current local PBS Create channel has been airing original seasons 2 and 3, along w/their master classes and Christmas specials. (They may have aired season 1 before I found the series and began recording.)

But since my channel is apparently so far behind, maybe there's more to come, but it's not in the guide listings yet, that go out only two weeks into the future on TiVo. I hope they will carry all of the original episodes that aired before the switch to Channel 4.

It's too bad that PBS will discontinue its licensing agreement after the British channel move. I wonder if maybe ABC or someone else can work out a deal for the new seasons.

I live in a region that equally gets both the Philadelphia, PA and the Annapolis, MD PBS stations. I now (unlike in the past) get solely the Annapolis station's primary station, plus its PBS Kids broadcast (which I rarely watch that, though every so often they have something adults can easily enjoy). Regarding the Philly station, I get its primary and three secondary stations (including PBS Kids [again] and NHK World [from Japan] - which I often like stuff on that latter one); I think it's on PBS Create, broadcast from Philly, that this series has been rerunning on Sunday mornings, in my region.

I've read or heard that the PBS Philadelphia market is the 2nd most prominent (that station itself is - WHYY) in the US, after only Boston. The programming lineups it broadcasts tend to be really good and well-rounded. Having said that, I tend to, in general, especially gravitate to the UK-heavy (plus with series from also other countries, such as Sweden, Australia, and France) more international programming of the Annapolis primary station - which much of the time airs specially purchased series or documentaries that the Philly station doesn't broadcast. At any rate, there's a really good mix, between the combination of available PBS stations in my area.

Individual PBS stations are able to purchase airing rights to series that fall outside of the standard PBS "package" programming. Hopefully our stations will purchase rights to some seasons of this show that haven't been broadcast in the States in more than a few years.

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