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Bizarre Vanessa Anders character.
posted by MongoLloydSTAFFMOD on March 10, 2017 at 3:04 PM
I bailed about half way into the first episode (or so) and found the Vanessa Anders to be just very strange. She struts around like she's some kind of crime boss with her henchmen always at her side, then shows up deus ex machina style out of nowhere and spits out what could have been 10 minutes of actual back story on screen with a speech about meeting Wells before and being his great grand daughter, what?!?!?! And she's bIack!?!?! WHAT?
Reply by GregorClegane
on March 11, 2017 at 9:00 AM
She seems partly not white, but I wouldn't call her black.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 11, 2017 at 12:49 PM
She's a light skinned bIack. Both her actual parents are bIack. She just looks really strange as a descendent of Wells who is pasty white.
Reply by Mrs. William the Bloody
on March 13, 2017 at 9:53 AM
The fact that a White man has a Black descendant is shocking?
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 13, 2017 at 11:58 AM
"Shocking?" I never said "shocking." It's just very odd and muddies the whole story for the sake of a "diverse" cast.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 13, 2017 at 12:00 PM
Nice ad hominem. And yet the facts remain.
Reply by pros6592
on March 20, 2017 at 7:14 AM
Makes sense now
Reply by rainbowfeverish64
on March 24, 2017 at 8:16 AM
In 2017 you don't get that a black person can be related to a white person? You do know the first people on earth were black we are all descendants of black people.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 25, 2017 at 3:26 PM
In terms of casting, it's an oddity and it's distracting. Ancient history shouldn't figure in to it.
Reply by nemo69
on March 25, 2017 at 6:04 PM
He's just a troll. Ignore him and he will go back under his bridge.
Reply by Mrs. William the Bloody
on March 25, 2017 at 10:22 PM
"In terms of casting, it's an oddity and it's distracting. Ancient history shouldn't figure in to it."
That depends on your perspective. If you are a person of color, it's not "odd" or "distracting" to see another person of color playing a part that doesn't require an actor from a particular ethnic background. Multi-racial people exist in real life; they aren't plot devices.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 27, 2017 at 5:30 PM
I'm just as weirded out whenever any unexpected character race pops up in a casting choice as I'm sure even bIack people would be. And I have no doubt they cast that light skinned bIack woman to satisfy some kind of quota for racial diversity in the cast. What other possible explanation could there be? I have nothing against that actress, but she just sticks out like a sore thumb.
Reply by Mrs. William the Bloody
on March 27, 2017 at 9:23 PM
*"I'm just as weirded out whenever any unexpected character race pops up in a casting choice as I'm sure even bIack people would be." *
Well, as a Black person, I'm not "weirded out" -- perhaps because I don't expect to always see White people in roles that don't specifically call for a White person. We're talking about his descendant in the 21st century, not a daughter that he had in his original timeline.
*"And I have no doubt they cast that light skinned bIack woman to satisfy some kind of quota for racial diversity in the cast. What other possible explanation could there be?" *
Are you serious right now? What other possible explanation could there be? Here's a thought -- maybe she had the best audition. Assuming that the only reason a Black woman was cast in the part is because of "some kind of quota" is flat out racist. If you have a problem seeing people of color mixing with White people, turn the channel.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 27, 2017 at 10:29 PM
What if you saw a member of the_ Inglorious Basterds_ who was a bIack American? Make sense to you from a casting perspective? What if there was a movie with a bIack Indy racer in it? Make sense to you? Because I don't think there are ANY. See where I'm going with this? You can't just plug any race of actor into any role. An Eskimo marathon runner? A Somalian sumo wrestler? An Amish scientist? See where I'm going with this?
I have a problem with forced quotas and casting based on "fairness" for the sake of fairness.
Reply by Mrs. William the Bloody
on March 28, 2017 at 8:16 AM
And what exactly is it about THIS character that makes it so implausible and statistically unlikely that she would be Black? The fact that she's wealthy? Powerful? Descended from a famous author? There is NOTHING about this character that says she can't or shouldn't be Black, and there is ZERO evidence (other than your own closet racism) that she was cast to fulfill a "quota."
There are Black indy racers. And Eskimo marathon runners. You may be shocked to know that there are people of color in all kinds of fields that are predominately White. Just because you don't know them and because mainstream TV shows don't show them doesn't mean that they don't exist. The fact that you think they are nonexistent is actually an argument for making sure that people of color ARE cast in roles like this. Because it DOES actually happen in real life, but ISN'T shown much on TV. Since Sumo wrestling is only practiced professionally in one country on the planet, yes, I would be surprised to know of a Somalian sumo wrestler. Since Time After Time is set in the United States, I'm not surprised to see an American actor playing one of the parts.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on March 29, 2017 at 2:54 PM
It's "odd" from a casting perspective. That's what I said and ALL I mean. I have nothing against bIack people. The only rationale that makes any sense in casting a bIack woman as the great grand daughter of HG Wells is that they were going for racial diversity in the cast, period.
HAHAHAHAHA, "mainstream tv," what?!?!? I'm talking about reality. And exceptions to a rule are completely irrelevant with regard to my original assertion.